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Netgear R6400 Reset and Upload Speed Is Slow

Question 1gb connection, only getting 300mb when using my own router netgear R6400v2

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Using firmware ane.0.4.102_10.0.74

I have a 1gbps net connection. When i run a speed test I'll normally get around 500-600mbps down and 800mbps up. However, other then the speeds i get from speedtest.net, everything else seems to max out at around 300mbps down. I don't think i've e'er downloaded anything from anywhere faster than that. Same for my uploads.

The way my abode network is setup is I accept a router from the ISP that'south connected to the fiber modem. I then accept my netgear router plugged into their router, and everything else is plugged into my router, or connects wirelessly to my router. I did information technology this mode only because I'm a bit of a control freak.

Anyhow, this night I was downloading a game update and it was coming downwardly at effectually 250-300mbps. I decided to check some router settings to see if there was annihilation that might be slowing it down. MTU'south are set to 1500 and I did a ping test and the max size was 1472. so 1500 should be correct. I tried lowering it to 1472 anyhow to test information technology and information technology had no effect. I also practice not take quality of service turned on. I couldn't see whatever settings that would be limiting my speeds.

I so tried plugging my PC directly into the Isp's router, bypassing my router. I'1000 now getting downloads around 800-950mbps. Seems to be averaging around 850. Thats a huge increase. I fifty-fifty tried plugging my PC into the same port my router was plugged into just incase the router had a bad port. Also tried irresolute the patch cable from cat5 to cat7. There's possibly a 50mbps speed heave doing that, or could just be random network spikes. I also tried unplugging everything else from my router and turning off the both wifi networks on the router. No event.

I tin't recall of any other settings to check or anything else I can do to dominion out the router only not treatment 1gb speeds. Anyone have whatever suggestions on how to go this working?

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Most consumer routers that take any historic period to them tin't road at gigabit speeds. I would just use your isp router for routing and use your existing router equally merely an admission point. That will solve the speed issue.
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Nigh consumer routers that take whatever age to them tin't route at gigabit speeds. I would just utilize your isp router for routing and use your existing router as simply an access indicate. That will solve the speed issue.
I've been using this router for less and then a year at present.
VirtualLarry
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Virtually consumer routers that have any age to them can't route at gigabit speeds.
Delight, explain that line of thinking. Are we talking because of firmware bloat, due to updates, or thermal throttling due to dust build-up, or some other reason. Considering I've never personally had that happen.

Edit: Or were y'all simply referring to the era and historic period of the tech in about consumer household's routers, that they couldn't fifty-fifty route gigabit when new?

mxnerd
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Try FreshTomato firmware?


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Hans Gruber
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I take said something controversial in the past. I questioned the gigabit ports on wifi routers. I also have a R6400 simply mine is v1. I noticed the speeds were slower using the Netgear router. So I put in a eight port gigabit switch and that solved the speed trouble. My download speed loss was l-100mbps from gigabit downward speeds with the R6400.
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I concord, that there are a LOT of semi-older routers, equipped with gigabit WAN and LAN ports, that don't have the CPU or other hardware capacity to really route WAN-to-LAN at gigabit speeds.

SNB (SmallNetBuilder) has some "Router Charts" which are useful in this area, they rank and take graphs of things like WAN-to-LAN throughput for several generations of routers.

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Endeavour FreshTomato firmware?
Maybe - although i'd rather non do that unless I knew it was going to fix the result.

Would it brand sense to plug my desktop into one port and my laptop into another port and only attempt copying a few GB's between them and run across what sort of speeds I become? I'd assume if that goes at the same speed, then the problem is with the router and not with my Isp.

Someone on the netgear forum suggested that mayhap having 2 NAT'due south is the problem. I could certainly understand if it slowed information technology down a picayune bit, but 300 to 800-900mbps seems pretty excessive for that.

mxnerd
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You either find a Netgear firmware version that works or attempt the FreshTomato. You can ever go back to Netgear's.
Hans Gruber
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You either detect a Netgear firmware version that works or try the FreshTomato. You can always go dorsum to Netgear's.
In defense of Netgear. They still fully support this router and have auto update features. I suspect that losing that much bandwidth is due to his NAS or network usage parallel to his download machine. I have argued in the past that using a standalone gigabit switch as the way point would solve the issue. In other words modem to switch to router.
mxnerd
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OP did non mention NAS or parallel downloading.

If OP does non want to flash tertiary party firmware, he can turn the R6400v2 into an AP (basically an wifi access pint + ethernet switch), uplink i of the R6400v2'southward LAN ports to ISP fiber router/gateway, it so can eliminate the possible NAT problem, run into if it works first.

Hans Gruber
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Possibly - although i'd rather not do that unless I knew it was going to set the issue.

Would it make sense to plug my desktop into one port and my laptop into another port and just effort copying a few GB's between them and meet what sort of speeds I get? I'd assume if that goes at the same speed, then the problem is with the router and non with my ISP.

Someone on the netgear forum suggested that peradventure having ii NAT's is the problem. I could certainly understand if it slowed it down a picayune chip, but 300 to 800-900mbps seems pretty excessive for that.

He said it right earlier your original response.
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OP did not mention NAS or parallel downloading.

If OP does not desire to flash 3rd party firmware, he can turn the R6400v2 into an AP (basically an wifi access pint + ethernet switch), uplink one of the R6400v2's LAN ports to Internet access provider fiber router/gateway, it then can eliminate the possible NAT problem, run across if information technology works first.

There's nothing else going on when i tried downloading. In fact, when i tried downloading that recent game, i was physically switching the ethernet cable plugged into my pc between my router and the Internet service provider'due south router. So the unlike download speeds I was getting was all within the aforementioned time frame with naught else going on. My phone and 2 television set's were connected to the router. I wasn't doing annihilation with my phone and I'm pretty sure both tv'due south were off. Or at most i of them was on.

I guess I can give tomato a shot if at that place isn't anything else that might be causing this.

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In defense force of Netgear. They still fully support this router and have machine update features. I doubtable that losing that much bandwidth is due to his NAS or network usage parallel to his download automobile. I accept argued in the by that using a standalone gigabit switch every bit the manner point would solve the result. In other words modem to switch to router.
Tin can you explain why using a switch might prepare this? Wouldn't information technology be pointless to have a switch if at that place'due south merely 1 thing connected to it?
VirtualLarry
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The but reason to use a switch between a modem and a router (as a 1-to-ane connection), would be due to a hardware incompatibility between the cablemodem'due south WAN port and the WAN port on the router, such that they weren't motorcar-detecting a connexion at the maximum line rate.
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Hmm...co-ordinate to the routers status page, information technology's continued at 1000mbps. But I'll give love apple a try first since it's free.
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Hmm...according to the routers status page, information technology's connected at 1000mbps. But I'll give tomato plant a try first since information technology's complimentary.
Depending on your routers age (when the model was made, not when yous bought it) 300mb/due south download is pretty normal for any standard consumer router, especially if you lot are using wireless connection.

Status page only most probable shows Speed & Duplex which is non same as your Internet connection speed, (go 10Gb NIC and connect Cat 7 cablevision to it and same status should testify 10000mbs)

I would recommend chaining the ethernet cable to shorter and / or Cat vii type ethernet cable first and examination the speed with ethernet connection.

If wireless speed is too low for your liking, then yous need beefier router and information technology's but all-time to get 1 from your ISP (Skilful network stuff is DAMN expensive and unless yous know what to become, it gets even more expensive.)

I can recommend Ubiqity USG 4 PRO security gateway, Ubiqity Unifi video US-24 switch and 2-iii Ubiqity Unifi AP-AC Lite access points, but that might exist "Slightly" expensive and yes, you need at least one firewall, ane switch and ii-3 access points to have fast ethernet and wifi which both are protected from intruders (Switches and access points don't have firewall and NAT, so connecting them direct to net is HUGE no no, despite them allowing speeds that gives you biggest nerd boners e'er. Lack of NAT and firewall are reasons for those speeds).

In addition to Internet access provider side of things, net speed depends on your cables lengths, types, how many wireless and wired devices are connected to same router and your routers firewall throughput.

Most affordable consumer routers aren't really fabricated for 1GB internet connections because about people don't accept that fast Internet yet, ISP is best bet to get best quality router since y'all pay it in installments alongside with your internet pecker, oh and even with ISP router, yous can expect internet speed to be around 800 and 1 000 give or take 5% slower / faster speeds. Your Internet access provider won't necessarily provide 1Gb speed 24/vii whenever weather is rainy or sunshine, it'due south just the maximum speed to which ISP has set a limit to your household.

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Thank you for the explanation, although I'm aware of all that. I actually used to practice tech back up for an Internet service provider, although that was a while ago ;)

Anyhow, i recall i ruled out every other possible explanation. I'k using CAT7 cables. I used the same cable and the aforementioned ports on the routers to do my tests. So using the same cable my PC was connecting to my router, I plugged that cable into the same port on the Isp's router that my router was continued to. And i ran the tests at the same time, just switching the cablevision back and forth. And it was consistently downloading at around 850mbps vs 300mbps. And i fifty-fifty tried disconnecting anything else connected to the router and turned off the wifi on the router. And then I'm pretty I ruled out everything other then in that location existence some result with my router. Or with the router beingness connected to their router.

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Well, sounds like information technology is the router. Smallnetbuilder has the R6400 in their tests and put information technology at approx 700Mbps, but it doesn't specify if it was V1 or V2. The R6100 (same approx age, just AC1200 instead of AC1750) was just capable of 94Mbps WAN <-> LAN throughput.

Personally I only placed a pfsense router in my network setup. Built information technology for almost $200-250 (combination of ebay and new parts), and it has no problems hitting around 900Mbps (which I believe is limited from the ISP), while also performing IDS (Intrusion Detection System) and malware/virus blocking.

Harry_Wild
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Become a new WIFI mesh router! See my thread in this forum!
Hans Gruber
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Well, sounds like it is the router. Smallnetbuilder has the R6400 in their tests and put it at approx 700Mbps, simply it doesn't specify if information technology was V1 or V2. The R6100 (same approx age, just AC1200 instead of AC1750) was simply capable of 94Mbps WAN <-> LAN throughput.

Personally I merely placed a pfsense router in my network setup. Built information technology for about $200-250 (combination of ebay and new parts), and it has no bug hitting around 900Mbps (which I believe is limited from the Isp), while as well performing IDS (Intrusion Detection System) and malware/virus blocking.

I have a V1 R6400. Netgear does an excellent chore of updating the firmware on it. The gigabit ports push button 900mbps+ most of the time. Wifi AC is 380mbps on a new Ipad and I have seen speeds up to 500mbps when nobody had wireless Air-conditioning (5Ghz) in my neighborhood. I agree, Mesh network is the way to go.

This is what it looks like going through a TP-Link 8 port gigabit switch followed by a Netgear 8port gigabit switch into the Xfi modem while streaming Espn Hard disk during the speedtest. The R6400 has been retired to only wireless traffic.

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Using firmware 1.0.4.102_10.0.74

I have a 1gbps net connection. When i run a speed test I'll unremarkably get around 500-600mbps down and 800mbps up. However, other then the speeds i get from speedtest.net, everything else seems to max out at effectually 300mbps downwardly. I don't recollect i've always downloaded anything from anywhere faster than that. Same for my uploads.

The mode my home network is setup is I have a router from the Internet service provider that's continued to the fiber modem. I then accept my netgear router plugged into their router, and everything else is plugged into my router, or connects wirelessly to my router. I did information technology this manner just considering I'm a bit of a control freak.

Anyhow, this night I was downloading a game update and it was coming downwardly at effectually 250-300mbps. I decided to check some router settings to see if there was anything that might be slowing it downwardly. MTU's are set to 1500 and I did a ping test and the max size was 1472. and then 1500 should be right. I tried lowering it to 1472 anyhow to test information technology and it had no issue. I likewise exercise not have quality of service turned on . I couldn't see any settings that would be limiting my speeds.

I so tried plugging my PC directly into the ISP's router, bypassing my router. I'grand now getting downloads around 800-950mbps. Seems to be averaging around 850. Thats a huge increment. I even tried plugging my PC into the same port my router was plugged into just incase the router had a bad port. Also tried changing the patch cable from cat5 to cat7. There'south maybe a 50mbps speed boost doing that, or could simply be random network spikes. I also tried unplugging everything else from my router and turning off the both wifi networks on the router. No effect.

I tin't think of any other settings to cheque or annihilation else I can do to rule out the router just non handling 1gb speeds. Anyone have any suggestions on how to get this working?

You may have some bandwidth reservation limits going on here.

Aggrandize to see bolded and underlined.

No QoS turned on.

Fallen Kell
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I don't know why people push "mesh" routers. All yous are doing is using up more of the available WiFi bandwidth to let the routers talk to each other in a "mesh" over WiFi. Think of information technology this way, there is a fixed corporeality of WiFi bandwidth. Allow'due south but say for statement, 2Gbps total (made upwardly number for simplicity'southward sake). You lot personally can only apply 1Gbps from your device to the router. That means there is a 2d channel out there allowing another router in the same expanse to besides run at 1Gbps like say your neighbor.Everything is ok since the both of you are not using the aforementioned channels. At present, 1 of you decides, "hey I'm gonna put in a new mesh router and aggrandize my network that way", thinking information technology is a cracking idea, no need to run cables anywhere. So y'all upgrade, and of a sudden you come across that yous periodically have really crappy performance that yous can't explain. And the reason is in that location is only 2Gbps bandwidth, and it is already in utilize between y'all and your neighbour. Your "mesh" router is attempting to communicate over a second channel to the other routers in your network, and now y'all are sharing channels with ones in utilise by neighbors, pregnant that your devices all demand to wait when communicating considering some other device is communicating at the same time on the aforementioned channel, and your devices all have to attempt to read those communications because they won't know information technology isn't for them or not because it is the same channel, and they won't know until after receiving it and attempting to decode it. On top of that, if they attempt to communicate at the aforementioned time, and then all devices stop communicating and get into collision resolution protocol, pausing a random amount of time before attempting to communicate again to try and prevent the collision from immediately happening again, slowing things down even more. And all of a sudden, instead of running at 1Gbps, you now are running slower than 0.5Gbps. It gets even worse because if your using the same channel as another person and they take older devices like say something that is however 802.11G, well, at present everything on that network has to go into fallback modes to make sure the G devices can communicate properly even if you lot had your network configured as N-only or Air conditioning-only to take advantage of the speed boosts, it all goes to hell because your neighbor on the aforementioned channel as yous even so has that erstwhile device out there.

Sure, there are places where you can use mesh. These places are typically places that your next closest neighbor is effectually thousand yards/meters away. Everywhere else is typically already dealing with highly congested WiFi.

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If Netgear Armor is turned on that could be the culprit.
Harry_Wild
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I don't know why people push "mesh" routers. All y'all are doing is using upwards more of the available WiFi bandwidth to allow the routers talk to each other in a "mesh" over WiFi. Recollect of information technology this way, there is a stock-still amount of WiFi bandwidth. Permit'due south only say for argument, 2Gbps total (made up number for simplicity'southward sake). You personally tin can simply apply 1Gbps from your device to the router. That means there is a second aqueduct out at that place allowing another router in the same expanse to also run at 1Gbps like say your neighbour.Everything is ok since the both of y'all are not using the aforementioned channels. Now, one of you decides, "hey I'chiliad gonna put in a new mesh router and aggrandize my network that way", thinking it is a great idea, no need to run cables anywhere. And then you upgrade, and all of a sudden you see that you periodically accept really crappy performance that you lot tin can't explain. And the reason is there is only 2Gbps bandwidth, and it is already in use between you and your neighbor. Your "mesh" router is attempting to communicate over a second channel to the other routers in your network, and at present y'all are sharing channels with ones in apply by neighbors, pregnant that your devices all need to await when communicating considering another device is communicating at the same time on the same channel, and your devices all take to attempt to read those communications because they won't know it isn't for them or non considering it is the same channel, and they won't know until afterward receiving it and attempting to decode information technology. On tiptop of that, if they endeavor to communicate at the same fourth dimension, then all devices stop communicating and go into collision resolution protocol, pausing a random amount of time before attempting to communicate once more to try and prevent the collision from immediately happening again, slowing things down even more. And of a sudden, instead of running at 1Gbps, you now are running slower than 0.5Gbps. It gets even worse considering if your using the same aqueduct as some other person and they have older devices similar say something that is withal 802.11G, well, at present everything on that network has to go into fallback modes to make sure the One thousand devices can communicate properly even if you had your network configured as N-just or Air conditioning-only to have advantage of the speed boosts, it all goes to hell because your neighbor on the same aqueduct as you yet has that old device out at that place.

Sure, there are places where you tin use mesh. These places are typically places that your side by side closest neighbour is around 1000 yards/meters away. Everywhere else is typically already dealing with highly congested WiFi.

Some Tribunes have the 3rd aqueduct reserve to communicates with different nodes that are attached to the router!
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